This text presents a transcript of a discussion concerning the interpretation of the concept of "logos" and its evolution in the history of philosophy, particularly in comparison to the modern understanding of subject and object. The discussion focuses on key questions such as the emergence of a chasm between humanity and reality, the role of logos in this process, and the transformation of the understanding of human existence. Initially, the speakers address the differences between ancient and modern worldviews, noting that ancient Greeks did not perceive humans as separate subjects but as part of a whole. The conversation gradually explores how logos evolved from an original order of everything into a tool for creating distance and objectification. Furthermore, the concept of "dehumanization," linked to modern subject-object thinking, is analyzed, along with its manifestations in society and philosophy itself. Finally, there is a reflection on the maxim "Know thyself" (Gnóthi seauton), whose meaning has shifted over time from a mythological foundation to a modern philosophical conception of the subject, emphasizing interiority and activity, which led to the rejection of the traditional subject-object dichotomy.