This text captures an informal philosophical debate featuring Ladislav Hejdánek, focusing on the nature of ethical action and the philosopher's role in society. The discussion posits that a truly ethical situation arises not when moral commands are clear, but in the "void" between them, necessitating independent thought and decision-making. The participants analyze the Socratic method of questioning in contrast with the figure of Achilles, exploring the tension between the ability to act ethically and the capacity to conceptually define or articulate such actions. A significant portion of the dialogue reflects on the positions of Václav Havel and Jan Patočka, specifically concerning the "shaking" (otřes) of the life-world and the responsibility of the intellectual. Finally, the debate addresses methodological questions of radical questionability (Fraglichkeit) and the possibility of expressing transcendence outside traditional theological frameworks. Overall, the transcript provides insight into 1980s dissident philosophical thought, bridging the gap between ontology and practical morality.